Drinks with Tony
Jane Rosenberg LaForge #126

Jane Rosenberg LaForge #126

February 17, 2021

Jane Rosenberg LaForge is the author of Sisterhood of the Infamous, released yesterday, and Medusa’s Daughter that was released in January.

Thanks for listening.

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Rucker Moses #124

Rucker Moses #124

February 11, 2021

Rucker Moses is the pen name of the writing team Craig S. Phillips and Harold Hayes Jr.

Together with Theo Gangi they wrote Kingston and The Magician’s Lost and Found. Today I talk with Harold Hayes Jr. about the book, his collaborations with Craig, as well as their company and expansion into virtual reality storytelling.

Drinks with Tony is on iTunesSpotifyPandoraStitcher, and other podcast outlets. It also airs every Thursday evening at 6pm on 101.9 FM, KPCR, Santa Cruz.

Sue Buyer #125

Sue Buyer #125

February 11, 2021

Sue Buyer is a 92 year old debut author. Her book is called All Things In Time.
Born in the 1920s, she saw The Great Depression, both World Wars, and she graduated from Vassar in 1947. In 1950 she started Columbia Journalism School and after she received her degree she went to work for the Buffalo Evening News as a reporter. Her novel is based on her years as a journalist.
She’s 92 years old, has 25+ years as a journalist to her credit, and waits until her 90s to publish a novel. Beat that!

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Tod Goldberg #123

Tod Goldberg #123

February 4, 2021

Tod Goldberg is the author of The Low Desert. His other books include Gangsterland and Gangster Nation and he runs the Low Residency Creative Writing MFA program at UC Riverside.

February 10th at 6pm I teach this free online creative writing workshop through the Los Angeles Public Library. Go to the link to register, and since it’s online, you can take advantage of this class from anywhere in the world.

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Daniel Pyne #122

Daniel Pyne #122

January 27, 2021

Daniel Pyne is the author of Water Memory. He’s also a screenwriter who wrote Doc Hollywood and The Manchurian Candidate. His TV credits include Bosch and Miami Vice. We talk a lot about his work with Michael J. Fox for Doc Hollywood, which is one of my favorite Michael J. Fox films, so, there was a little starfucking in this episode because I’m such a fan of the film that doesn’t get as much buzz as other Fox films.

February 10th is my free online creative writing workshop presented by the Los Angeles Public Library and I should have a link next week. Worse case scenario, send me an email at dushane@gmail.com so I can forward the Zoom info to you when I get it.

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Chris Matheson #121

Chris Matheson #121

January 20, 2021

Chris Matheson is the author of The Buddha’s Story. He’s also the screenwriter for the Bill and Ted films that started with Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure. Enjoy our conversation.

Join my 8 week screenwriting workshop starting on January 25th. Class limit is 10, so sign up early if you want to grab your spot.

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Lee Goldberg #120

Lee Goldberg #120

January 14, 2021

 Lee Goldberg is the author of Bone Canyon. He’s also a TV writer and producer with a ton of credits including Monk, of which he wrote many novels based on the character, and as we discuss in this episode the Flipper reboot. After you read Bone Canyon check out his many other books.

Join my 8 week screenwriting workshop starting on January 25th. Class limit is 10, so sign up early if you want to grab your spot.

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Mo Daviau #119

Mo Daviau #119

January 6, 2021

Mo Daviau is the author of Every Anxious Wave, which may soon become a feature film. Listen to the podcast to find out every gritty detail.

Join my 8 week screenwriting workshop starting on January 25th. Class limit is 10, so sign up early if you want to grab your spot.

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Joshua Samuel Brown #118

Joshua Samuel Brown #118

December 30, 2020

Joshua Samuel Brown is the author of Spinning Karma. He has written 13 Lonely Planet travel guides and his other books include Formosa Moon and Vignettes of Taiwan.

Join my 8 week screenwriting workshop starting on January 25th. Class limit is 10, so sign up early if you want to grab your spot.

Also, I’m teaching Writing Through Grief and Tragedy through UCLA Extension starting on February 16th.

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William Loving #117

William Loving #117

December 23, 2020

William Loving is the author of City Of Angles. He was also a long time journalist and we talk all things newsroom and so much more. I hope you enjoy the show.

Join my 8 week screenwriting workshop starting on January 25th. Class limit is 10, so sign up early if you want to grab your spot.

Also, I’m teaching Writing Through Grief and Tragedy through UCLA Extension starting on February 16th.

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Kim Gruenenfelder #116

Kim Gruenenfelder #116

December 16, 2020

Kim Gruenenfelder is the author of My Ex’s Wedding. She was also a writer on Jeopardy for some years and is still involved in TV and film.

Join my 8 week screenwriting workshop starting on January 25th. Class limit is 10, so sign up early if you want to grab your spot.

Also, I’m teaching Writing Through Grief and Tragedy through UCLA Extension starting on February 16th.

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Paul Madonna #115

Paul Madonna #115

December 9, 2020

Paul Madonna is the author of Come To Light, a three book set featuring illustrations from the artist who brought you the series All Over Coffee.

My UCLA screenwriting class for Winter quarter is full, but my screenwriting class at Writing Workshops starting January 25th has some openings, so join us:

8-Week Online Beginning Feature Screenwriting, Join List For Next Class

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Daniel Tunnard #114

Daniel Tunnard #114

December 2, 2020

Daniel Tunnard is the author of Escapes, A Novel About Scrabble. Out now on Unnamed Press.

He’s also a translator and has written two books in Spanish on traveling via bus and train through Argentina. Daniel is a blast to interview and I hope you enjoy this episode.

Join me for a free creative writing workshop through the Los Angeles Public Library on December 2nd at 6pm on Zoom. Full registration instructions are here.

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Kevin Smokler #113

Kevin Smokler #113

November 25, 2020

Kevin Smokler is the director of Vinyl Nation, a documentary about all things vinyl records available until December 1st. Go to www.vinylnationfilm.com to watch it before it leaves.

Kevin is also the author of Brat Pack America: A Love Letter to ’80s Teen Movies.

Join me for a free creative writing workshop through the Los Angeles Public Library on December 2nd at 6pm on Zoom. Full registration instructions are here.

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Iris Berry #112

Iris Berry #112

November 18, 2020

Iris Berry is the author of All That Shines Under The Hollywood Sign and The Daughters of Bastards. She’s also the co-founder and editor of Punk Hostage Press.

I hope you enjoy the show and buy her books.

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Lee Child #111

Lee Child #111

November 11, 2020

Lee Child is the author of 25 novels in the Jack Reacher series. His latest is The Sentinel, co-authored with his brother. He’s also the editor of The Nicotine Chronicles out now on Akashic Books.

I hope you enjoy the show and buy his books.

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Joseph Di Prisco #110

Joseph Di Prisco #110

November 4, 2020

Joseph Di Prisco is the author of The Pope of Brooklyn and Subway to California. His latest novel is The Good Family Fitzgerald out now on Rare Bird Lit.

I hope you enjoy the show and buy his books.

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Lee Gutkind #109

Lee Gutkind #109

October 28, 2020

Lee Gutkind is The Godfather behind creative nonfiction according to Vanity Fair and they’re right. His latest book is the intimate memoir entitled My Last Eight Thousand Days.

He has appeared on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Good Morning America, and now, here on Drinks with Tony. I’m a lucky fella.

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Art Bell #108

Art Bell #108

October 21, 2020

Art Bell is the author of Constant Comedy: How I started Comedy Central and Lost My Sense of Humor.

We talk TV biz, we talk Jon Stewart and The Daily Show, we talk Mystery Science Theater, and we talk even more TV biz.

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Helen Pluckrose #107

Helen Pluckrose #107

October 14, 2020

Helen Pluckrose is the co-author of Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody.

We chat feminism, patriarchy, and how almost losing her life shifted her career.

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D. B. Ramsey #106

D. B. Ramsey #106

October 7, 2020

D. B. Ramsey is a former Baptist minister and the author of Speaking of God: We Don’t Know Shit: A Former Minister Reflects on God and Religion.

So if the bible’s is right, we’re both going to hell for this episode.

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Mitzi Szereto #105

Mitzi Szereto #105

September 30, 2020

Mitzi Szereto is the author of Normal For Norfolk and Pride and Prejudice: Hidden Lusts. Her new book is an anthology she edited called The Best New True Crime Stories: Small Towns.

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Douglas A. Martin #104

Douglas A. Martin #104

September 23, 2020

Douglas A. Martin is the author of Branwell: A Novel of the Brontë Brother and Wolf.

If you’d like to join my intermediate screenwriting course at UCLA Extension click this link and scroll to remote instruction. Remember to read the prerequisites.

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Rose Andersen #103

Rose Andersen #103

September 16, 2020

Rose Andersen is the author of The Heart and Other Monsters: A Memoir.

If you’d like to join my intermediate screenwriting course at UCLA Extension click this link and scroll to remote instruction. Remember to read the prerequisites.

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Judy Gold #102

Judy Gold #102

September 9, 2020

Judy Gold is the author of Yes, I Can Say That: When They Come for the Comedians, We Are All in Trouble. She has standup specials on HBO and Comedy Central and has been a a ton of TV shows including Louie, Madame Secretary, and Better Things.

If you’d like to join my intermediate screenwriting course at UCLA Extension click this link and scroll to remote instruction. Remember to read the prerequisites.

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Joe Clifford #101

Joe Clifford #101

September 2, 2020

Joe Clifford is the author of The Lakehouse. His previous books include the Jay Porter series and Junkie Love.

If you’d like to provide coffee for Drinks with Tony send $10 to Tony via Paypal and I’ll give you or your business name huge THANK YOU at the front of the next episode.

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Neal Pollack #100

Neal Pollack #100

August 26, 2020

Neal Pollack is the author of Pothead: My Life as a Marijuana Addict in the Age of Legal Weed, as well as many other books. He’s also a three time winner on Jeopardy.

If you’d like to join my intermediate screenwriting course at UCLA Extension click this link and scroll to remote instruction. Remember to read the prerequisites.

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Richard Kadrey #99

Richard Kadrey #99

August 19, 2020

Richard Kadrey is the author of Ballistic Kiss, the 11th novel in the Sandman Slim series. He’s currently writing the 12th and final Sandman Slim novel.

Richard came on Drinks with Tony about 15 years ago when we were in studio at Radio Valencia in San Francisco to discuss his first Sandman Slim book. It’s so much fun when all of this comes around years later.

We talk a lot about graves, like Hollywood Forever, that appears in the Sandman Slim novels as well as Pere Lachaise.

My class at UCLA Extension, Writing for the Screen II, starts on September 29th. Join us.

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Carolyn Terry and A. M. Black #98

Carolyn Terry and A. M. Black #98

August 12, 2020

Carolyn Terry and A. M. Black are the co-authors of Tenderloin available from The Outsider Agency.

The Tenderloin is a neighborhood in San Francisco that’s often misunderstood, usually just driven through with the windows up and doors locked, and it has taken a really hard hit since the pandemic. Black has worked there for 30 years as a bartender, I spent some of my years living in the TL, as the locals call it, after moving from the Mission District, and Carolyn has spent a major part of her SF life there as well.

My class at UCLA Extension, Writing for the Screen II, starts on September 29th. Join us.

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Barbara Bottner #97

Barbara Bottner #97

August 5, 2020

Barbara Bottner is the author of I Am Here Now, a Novel in Free Verse. Sign up for her virtual launch party here, happening on August 15th.

Barbara is a NY Times best selling author of over 40 books, her story is fascinating from her time in NYC, working with Sam Shepard, to her creative methods, and relocating to the wonderful city of Los Angeles.

My class at UCLA Extension, Writing for the Screen II, starts on September 29th. Join us.

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Joe Meno #96

Joe Meno #96

July 29, 2020

Joe Meno is the author of Between Everything and Nothing: The Journey of Seidu Mohammed and Razak Iyal and the Quest for Asylum. Joe’s other books include Hairstyles of the Damned, The Boy Detective Falls, and Office Girl.

Join my online 8-week screenwriting workshop starting August 3rd at WritingWorkshops.com as well as my free creative writing workshop on August 5th at 6pm via Zoom at LAPL.org.

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Miriam Feldman #95

Miriam Feldman #95

July 22, 2020

Miriam Feldman is the author of He Came In With It, a Portrait of Motherhood and Madness. It’s not all tragedy as there are layers and Miriam’s memoir is beautiful on every level.

Enjoy the show.

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Arthur Nersesian #94

Arthur Nersesian #94

July 15, 2020

Arthur Nersesian is the author of The Five Books of (Robert) Moses. His other books include The Fuck-UpMesopotamia, Suicide Casanova, and Manhattan Loverboy.

Check him out on Thursday at 7pm Eastern time when he’s in conversation with Bob Odenkirk regarding his new 1506 page book.

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Tommie Vaughn #93

Tommie Vaughn #93

July 8, 2020

Tommie Vaughn is the author of This Rock ‘n’ Roll Dream, the final book of the Frankie Spencer Trilogy.

She’s also the front woman of Wall Of Tom. We chat juicy stories about how she started as a receptionist at a recording studio in Los Angeles and met all of her heroes, including Dave Grohl. There was a trick to her longevity in the music scene and she talks about that as well.

We had fun, and I hope you do too as you listen to episode 93.

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Kim Dower #92

Kim Dower #92

July 1, 2020

Kim Dower is the author of Sunbathing on Tyrone Power’s Grave, Slice of Moon, and The Soapy Shrimp Boat. She was the City Poet Laureate of West Hollywood from 2016-2018.

Join me July 1st at 6pm Pacific time for a free online creative writing workshop at the Los Angeles Public Library. Go to LAPL.org to sign up for the event.

Thanks for listening, remember to rate the show wherever you receive your podcast feed.

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Isaac Fitzgerald #91

Isaac Fitzgerald #91

June 24, 2020

Isaac Fitzgerald is the author of the new children’s book How To Be A Pirate. His previous books include Pen & Ink and Knives & Ink. He’s a regular guest on The Today Show and I drilled him with too many questions about every minute detail of what it’s like to appear on the show….it turns out it’s oddly similar to appearing on Drinks with Tony.

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John Martin Fischer #90

John Martin Fischer #90

June 17, 2020

John Martin Fischer is the author of Death, Immortality, and Meaning in Life.

Want to join my class at UCLA Extension? There is ONE spot left as of Tuesday evening…and sometimes a person drops before the quarter begins…. Writing The First Screenplay, go here and search for DuShane.

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Danny Plotnick #89

Danny Plotnick #89

June 10, 2020

Danny Plotnick is the author of Super 8: An illustrated History, released yesterday on Rare Bird Books. He is the King of Super 8. Danny’s films include Skate Witches and I’m Not Fascinating – The Movie.

Writing questions? Send them to dushane [@] gmail.com and I’ll get to them on the air.

Want to join my class at UCLA Extension, Writing The First Screenplay, go here and search for DuShane.

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Billy Van Zandt #88

Billy Van Zandt #88

June 3, 2020

Billy Van Zandt is the author of Get In The Car, Jane! Adventures In The TV Wasteland. His TV resume is quite impressive and he is the recipient of a People’s Choice Award, a Prism Award, and two NAACP Image Awards. He was also nominated for an Emmy for his work with I Love Lucy.

Writing questions? Send them to dushane [@] gmail.com and I’ll get to them on the air.

To sign up for my free online creative writing workshop register with the Los Feliz library by clicking this link.

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Deborah A. Lott #87

Deborah A. Lott #87

May 27, 2020

Deborah A. Lott is the author of Don’t Go Crazy Without Me: A Tragicomic Memoir. She’s also the author of In Session: The Bond Between Women and Their Therapists.

Thanks for listening and see you next week.

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Adam Gnade #86

Adam Gnade #86

May 20, 2020

Adam Gnade is the author of This Is the End of Something But It’s Not the End of You and The Do-It-Yourself Guide to Fighting the Big Motherfuckin’ Sad.

Check out more books as well as his records at https://adamgnade.bandcamp.com.

Thanks for listening and see you next week.

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Carla Malden #85

Carla Malden #85

May 13, 2020

Carla Malden is the author of Search Heartache. She’s also the co-author of Where Do I Start? with her father Karl Malden, and Afterimage: A Broken Hearted Memoir of a Charmed Life.

Join my online screenwriting class at UCLA Extension starting June 24th for 10 weeks. Sign up here.

I hope you enjoy the interview, you can listen and download it from here or enjoy the show on iTunesSpotifyPandoraStitcher, and other podcast outlets.

Maggie Downs #84

Maggie Downs #84

May 6, 2020

Maggie Downs is the author of Braver Than You Think coming out May 12th on Counterpoint Press. She’s also a skydiver, which is way braver than I could ever be, and we discuss that on the show.

This episode was taped pre-pandemic, so, in person, at The Alcove, over drinks. Why does that feel like another era.

Enjoy the show, and below is how the info on how to join my monthly free creative writing workshop online through the Los Angeles Public Library on May 6th.

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The Los Feliz Branch Public Library has moved its Creative Writing Workshop online!

Tony DuShane will hold a free 90-minute Writer’s Workshop on Wednesday, May 6 at 6:00 PM via Zoom.

If you’d like to attend please send a email to mpanzera@lapl.org to obtain the link and password to the session.

This free Creative Writing Workshop is presented by UCLA instructor Tony DuShane, writer of the novel “Confessions of a Teenage Jesus Jerk,” now a major motion picture from director Eric Stoltz.
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Nick Flynn #83

Nick Flynn #83

April 29, 2020

Nick Flynn is the author of, Stay: threads, conversations, collaborations, out now on ZE Books. He’s also the author of Another Bullshit Night in Suck City that was made into the film starring Robert DeNiro called Being Flynn.

If you’d like to see a video version of this interview, along with a music performance by Rykarda Parasol, check out this link, THIS LINK. The video version of the show is currently called Drinks with Tony ON VIDEO.

I hope you enjoy the interview, you can listen and download it from here or enjoy the show on iTunesSpotifyPandoraStitcher, and other podcast outlets.

Beth Lisick #82

Beth Lisick #82

April 22, 2020

Beth Lisick is the author of Edie On The Green Screen. It’s her debut novel and she’s also best selling NY Times author with earlier non-fiction including Everybody Into The Pool and Helping Me Help Myself.

She’s the co-founder of the Porch Light Storytelling Series and we chat a bit about our stints as exclusive background actors for big time TV shows and films.

Remember to check out www.tonydushane.com if you’re interested in book coaching.

I hope you enjoy the interview, you can listen and download it from here or enjoy the show on iTunesSpotifyPandoraStitcher, and other podcast outlets.

Alia Volz #81

Alia Volz #81

April 15, 2020

Alia Volz is the author of Home Baked: My Mom, Marijuana, and the Stoning of San Francisco.

Remember to check out www.tonydushane.com if you’re interested in book coaching.

I hope you enjoy the interview, you can listen and download it from here or enjoy the show on iTunesSpotifyPandoraStitcher, and other podcast outlets.

Cara Black #80

Cara Black #80

April 8, 2020

Cara Black is the author of Three Hours in ParisThe Hours in Paris, her first stand alone novel. Cara is known for 19 novels of of the literary investigation series that follows Aimee Leduc, a private investigator taking us through the nooks and crannies of the arrondissements of Paris.

I hope you enjoy the interview, you can listen and download it from here or enjoy the show on iTunesSpotifyPandoraStitcher, and other podcast outlets.

Chip Jacobs #79

Chip Jacobs #79

April 1, 2020

Chip Jacobs is the author of Arroyo, out now on Rare Bird Books. His other books include Smogtown, Strange As It Seems, and The People’s Republic of Chemicals.

I teach a free online creative writing workshop April 1st at 6pm Pacific, 9pm Eastern, go to TonyDuShane.com for more information and join us wherever you are in the big wide world.

I hope you enjoy the interview, you can listen and download it from here or enjoy the show on iTunesSpotifyPandoraStitcher, and other podcast outlets.

Michael Shermer #78

Michael Shermer #78

March 25, 2020

Michael Shermer is the author of Giving The Devil his Due: Reflections of a Scientific Humanist. He’s also the founder of Skeptic Magazine and used to be a Born Again Christian, so we got to bond on our Jesus Christ roots.

Remember April 1st at 6pm I’m doing my creative writing workshop that I usually do at the Los Angeles Public Library live online. Go to tonydushane.com for information on that.

Enjoy the show, take care of each other, there’s a lot of fear and anxiety out there, so remember to give people a break, we’re all in this together, and one day we will ALL HUG IT OUT.

Robert Anasi #77

Robert Anasi #77

March 18, 2020

Robert Anasi, the author of Last Bohemia, Scenes From the Life of Williamsburg and The Gloves: A Boxing Chronicle, joins me this week on the show.

This was recorded a few weeks ago to give context, in simpler times, or, are these simpler times? The eternal question. Anasi is a fine fella, we teach together at UCLA Extension and for some odd reason we tend to drink lots of coffee together, even at a bar.

I have upcoming classes at UCLA Extension, online, and book coaching options, so check out the link if you’re interested.

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